What Am I Missing?
Listening to Eskin talk about "percentages," when the guy is a complete mathematical savant, boy, it's been brutal.
I love it when The Dope takes the fact that the odds are 1/39 in converting 4th and 15 or greater, based on this year's stats (which I don't think is an accurate way to get the probability, but that's a different issue), and then proceeds to say that it is even LESS likely than 1/39 since the Eagles converted 4-10 on the play before with the false start penalty. Man, I'd love to gamble with this guy, as he clearly doesn't understand that the two events are independent of one another (unless you think they really only had a single play in their whole playbook that was capable of getting 15yds, which is absurd). Let's see, Eskin, the odds of rolling two sixes in a row is 1/36. If I just rolled a six, will you give me 36:1 payoff if i roll another one? Heck, I'll take 7:1 payoff and play that game all day long with you.
The simplest way to look at probabilities here is to realize that the two events of PRIMARY concern are:
1) odds of converting 4-15
OR
2) odds of holding nos 3 and out.
I'd argue that converting 4-15 against the saints defense is significantly more probable than holding a team to less than 10 yards on the ground when it has shredded your defense all game and only had one 3 and out in the second half. "Knowing" the run was coming didn't help the eagles all season long, and I have no idea what anybody was smoking while watching this recent game to think that was more probable than converting 4-15, particularly after your defense has been worn down for four quarters. You have to take a position that the odds of #2 are significantly greater than the odds of #1 to choose option 2. Why? Read on, as #1 has some nice second chances behind it if you think #2 is actually possible. #2 is a backup plan to start with.
Here's what the Saints would have been left (a second chance) with if the Eagles failed to convert 4-15 and could really hold the Saints to 3 and out (as some believe) after that:
a) NOS makes a FG with the line of scrimmage (LOS) no closer than the Eagles 30, at least a 47 yarder (no gimme), PHI -6, ball on their own 25ydline after a kickoff, 1min to go, 75 yard TD drive required. This would be tough for the Birds to pull off, obviously, especially as the field gets pretty short in those last 20 yds having to go for a TD vs. a FG.
b) NOS miss a FG with the LOS no closer than the Eagles 30, PHI-3, ball on their own 37yd line (or better), 1min to go, need to drive 30-35yds to get a FG. Considering the position this would have put PHI in (pretty good), you have to think NOS would have opted to punt, option c below.
c) NOS punts from the Eagles 39-30 yard line, PHI-3 gets the ball on their own 10ish yard line as long as the punter doesn't put it in the end zone, 1 min to go, need drive 60yds to get a FG.
I doubt the Saints would have gone for A, given the consequences (B) of a miss and the fact they were playing at home with a lead. They'd probably end up punting, and the Eagles would have been left trying for a 1 minute 60 yard drive for a FG. Compare that to where they would have been if they held the Saints after punting to them (as AR hoped): their own 40 yard line, -3, 1 min to go, needing 30-35 yards for a FG (oh and a chance that BWest makes a return miracle, but c'mon... you can't make part of your backup plan the primary plan... besides it leaves NOS a full minute on the clock against our sorry defense).
So, let's talk percentages here, then... I'll take one more shot at a first down at 4-15 with 2 TO's and 2 mins to go on the clock WITH the backup plan being a 60yd drive (assuming BWest can't return a 30 yd punt anywhere) plus FG with 1 minute on the clock. That's gotta be more favorable than starting with the backup plan but only having to only drive 30-35yds plus a FG with 1 minute on the clock (and give BWest a crack at a big return). You're risking only -25 yds for a chance to keep the ball in your offense's hands, retain two timeouts, and have an extra minute on the clock. Unbelievable still to me.
What Am I Missing? I keep hearing all this percentage talk, sometimes by football folks who are more knowledgeable than Eskin. I don't get it.